Free or Paid Russian Dating Sites

January 21st, 2012

I was recently asked if there were “free” alternatives to the expensive marriage and dating sites such as Jump4Love and, of course, there are. Admittedly, it is quite possible that many of these free sites will also include a percentage of traditional scammers, therefore it is still important to keep your wits about you.

In my experience, traditional ‘pay sites’ do very little to screen out scammers or remove fake profiles, choosing rhetoric in place of action. In addition, because pay sites are money centric, they also attract local agencies and girls (or women) who see it as a way of earning easy money therefore, arguably, the number of women that are not serious about relationships is likely to be far more prevelant on the pay sites.

As mentioned in some of my previous posts, for the most part, the pay sites use local ‘marriage agencies’ who are paid a percentage of the revenues generated from men willing to pay to meet prospective partners. These local marriage agencies will often receive between 35% and 50% of the revenues generated from the main site. In turn, most agencies (it is a competitive market finding attractive girls), will pass on as much as 60% of the revenues generated to the girls. Local marriage agencies may operate from offices, or they could offer to provide the girls with a laptop. However, whatever the method of communication, girls being paid will be expected to spend a minimum number of hours each week “online” and must hit targets for letters and/or chat, especially if the local marriage agency has paid for their photo portfolio and/or supplied a laptop. Not all girls on the pay sites are receiving commissions, some may be genuine and seeking a real relationship, but with so many being paid, it could cost you thousands to find a sincere girl and, more likely, you efforts will be futile. So why pay?

The downside of free sites is that you will have to work a little harder. Don’t expect 100′s of letters in your ‘inbox’ every day! However, because the girls on the free sites are not paid to communicate, at least you will know that their motives are not financial.Therefore, if you follow some basic rules about not sending money to anyone you communicate with, you have a real opportunity to meet new friends or find a partner without having your bank balance decimated.

Although I have experience of some of the free sites listed here, I am not going to make any recommendations, you must complete your own research and come to your own decision.

FreePersonals.ru
A completely free dating site where you can view profiles and send messages. The has English, German and Russian language options.

love.rambler.ru
Free offered by Rambler, a Russian search engine and one of the biggest Russian web portals. The site claims to have more than 11m users, this site caters for those looking for friendship, love, marriage and casual sex. Search function, view profiles and send messages. There are also a few clones of this site such as love.ru.

fotostrana.ru
Free Russian dating and personals site where you can view profiles and send messages.Claims to have 15.5m girls listed.

love.i.ua
Free dating site (and portal) focusing on Ukraine.

privet.ru
Free community and dating site. View profiles and send messages.

love.mail.ru
Part of the Russian portal mail.ru this site has its own dating and personals section where you can view profiles, chat (including video chat) and send messages.

vkontakte.ru
Russian social networking site which with features and functionality that are strikingly similar to Facebook and free to use.With more than 100m registered users, if you know someone in Eastern Europe, the chances are they have a profile on this site.Available in 70 languages.

odnoklassniki.ru (Classmates)
This is another site popular with Russians and for Soviet Republics. Whilst it is primary intention is to reunite old friends and former classmates, it is also a very popular form of communications between Eastern Europeans. They have more than 45m registered users, but the users are predominantly under 35 years old.

If you know of any more free dating or social networking sites (focused on Eastern Europe, not International) that are not listed here, I would be pleased to include them. However, it must not simply be a “free trial” of a paid site, nor can they charge a subscription, for letters or any  other forms of communication such as chat. 

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Jump4Love, can they be trusted? Read this and decide for yourself

January 11th, 2012

Q. – What is the mission of Jump4love?
A. – Jump4love is an intermediary between single men from all over the world and brides from Ukraine and Russia. We provide online communication facilities which are used by men and women to get in touch with each other. Our main purpose is to gather single ladies and men under one roof and give them a chance to develop their relations.

Q. – I am for the first time on your site. Are all girls there real?
A. – We closely check all new female profiles, request copies of their documents and interview our ladies before publishing them on the site. Our specialists are doing a lot of work keeping scammers and fake profiles out of the site. The best way to check if a women you like is real is to spend some minutes with her in video chat.

I have detailed two of the questions and answers listed on the Jump4Love website under Frequently Asked Questions as of 11th January 2012. In my opinion, based on personal experience and what I have been told, their answers are too ambiguous and self-serving to be considered fair or accurate. If Jump4Love want men to use their expensive communication services, then potential customers are entitled to be given an open and honest account of what Jump4Love do and don’t do. In the interests of fairness and providing a good counter-balance, I have produced what I consider to be a more accurate reflection of their current systems, procedures and policies.

Jump4Love claim that their “mission” and their “main purpose” is to be an intermediary between single ladies and men. This is complete bullshit of course, their main mission is profit, this is a business and I don’t understand why they are so coy about this. If their main mission was to act as an intermediary between single men and single girls, then they could offer this service free with advertiser support, or at a fraction of the price that they currently charge. For example: a two-way webcam chat is $1.20 a minute; does anyone see Jump4Love as a benevolent organisation? I don’t think so. It is also noteworthy, that whilst Jump4Love advertise that they are an “International Marriage Agency”, they recant this statement within their Terms of Use and, unsurprisingly providing considerably less prominence to the statement. The reason for this will become obvious in due course.

To understand what “checks” Jump4Love complete to protect men from scammers and from girls using fake profiles, first it is important to have an appreciation of how girls are added to the site. In common with many other dating sites, Jump4Love use third parties to recruit girls and Jump4Love variously (and confusingly) refer to these so called local “marriage agencies” as affiliates, agents and intermediaries. By their own admission, Jump4Love’s checks on successful agents or affiliates are limited to confirmation that they have an appropriate business licence and a copy of the passport for the ‘Agency Director’. Whilst the newly appointed agent has to agree to a set of terms, no financial or background checks are made on the business or the directors. Little wonder that Jump4Love is such a popular intermediary amongst the local marriage agencies!

Once appointed, these agents or affiliates are able to recruit and add new girls to the Jump4Love database. Jump4Love insist that a copy of the girls passport or identity document should be forwarded to them before a profile is activated. However, as my own experience demonstrated, these can easily be faked. Jump4Love now claim that girls are required to go on webcam with a copy of their passport, but I know for a fact, that this is not routine. Therefore, what Jump4Love will not tell you, is that the primary responsibility for ensuring that the girls are genuine, remains with their local agents, the same agents recruited with such minimal checks. However, rather than have a more robust screening process, Jump4Love prefer to distance themselves from this process by excluding any responsibility for the actions of their agents or affiliates within their Terms of Use! This is perhaps the most damning (and revealing) indictment of Jump4Love’s security measures. However, no matter what Jump4Love include in their Terms of Use, the fact remains, that in law, they ARE responsible where they have not demonstrated due diligence or a reasonable duty of care. In my view, based on the very limited checks completed on agents and girls, Jump4Love would have great difficulty justifying this exclusion in a court of law.

Once a profile has been activated, the local agents or affiliates are given free rein through their admin panel to amend and change profiles. Therefore, it is theoretically possible (and I know this happens), for a girl to be ‘approved’ by Jump4Love and then the profile completely changed with images of a different girl….sometimes within a few days. I once asked Jump4Love by email why local agents were permitted to change dates of birth or names, they never responded to my question! Jump4Love claim that there are “no fake profiles” in their tag lines, but they know this is not true. Jump4Love make it easy for dishonest local agents or affiliates to operate fake profiles. Common tactics utilised by dishonest local agencies include asking a girl known to the Agency director (or one of the girls), as a favour, or in return for payment to ‘borrow’ their identity; another is to have one girl ‘working’ several profiles while the other girls have a night off or are on holiday and the favourite, is to use ‘old’ profiles, where a girl has left. Good ‘earners’ are rewarded with additional fake profiles. Did I mention that whatever Jump4Love would have you believe, the vast majority of the girls recruited by local “marriage agencies” are paid a commission for chatting and writing to men?  Jump4Love suggest that you confirm girls are real by viewing them in video chat and this appears like good advice. However, a word of warning, if the girl looks different to the photos (this is not uncommon), then she probably is…and another favourite is to use poor lighting and/or cover the camera with cellophane to reduce the quality of the image. Some girls do not show their face at all, but these are mainly ‘professionals’ that cater for the many perverts that frequent this site looking for a cheap thrill.

Jump4Love told me that they do not allow girls to delete or deactivate their profiles in case they change their minds. Instead, the responsibility to delete profiles remains with the local agent or affiliate. To any casual observer, this would seem wide open to abuse by any dishonest local agent, but Jump4Love don’t see it that way. Jump4Love claim that if any girl writes to them and asks for their profile to be deleted, they will comply with the request, I have been told that this is not always so! There is another aspect to this whole process that Jump4Love are either in denial of, or don’t want you to know…and that is some of these girls are so intimidated by the local agencies, that they refuse to create a fuss if their profiles are not deleted. Jump4Love can always claim that there are no fake profiles, but this does not make it true.

If Jump4Love was serious about stamping out fake profiles and scammers, they could do so much more. For example, they could complete background and financial checks on all new agencies and their directors. They could allow girls to delete their own profiles, even if the data is retained for a period of time (in case they “change their minds”), which would give Jump4Love the opportunity to check the details again if the profile is reactivated. They could prevent local agents from changing details such as names and date of birth. They could prevent local agents from changing every photograph in a profile and limiting the number of additions/deletions in any given profile. They could monitor ‘suspicious activity’ such as girls being “online” for hours and hours, every day…if this is not a sign of someone that is “employed” or using a fake profile (another girl operating several profiles simultaneously), I don’t know what is. They could ask for regular updates (passport or camera checks) very 2 or 3 months on all active girls and they could deactivate or remove inactive accounts automatically. In addition, they could review all girls that have been active on their site for a long time, for example, there are girls that have been there since 2009….I ask you, how can any girl claim to be serious and still looking after 3 years…? Jump4Love could also be more proactive, for example, some dating sites actually go onto social networking sites to check the current status of the women on their database and immediately delete any that have been dishonest about their circumstances or status. One girl on Jump4Love that I was regularly communicating with in 2010 was actually married and living in another country….and she had NO knowledge that her ‘profile’ was being handed around like a commodity by the Agency Director.

I started this post by stating that Jump4Love is a business and its primary motivation is profit. I stand by this argument. Jump4Love make the same amount of money irrespective of whether a girl is genuine or fake…serious; or just working for a share of the commission. The only losers are the men and why should Jump4Love be concerned about them? In my particular case, I did not run away and lick my wounds as most men do (something these types of sites rely on), I made a claim against Jump4Love…and Jump4Love to their credit at the time, agreed to refund me in excess of $17,000…however, to their eternal shame, they paid less than two thirds!  Having taken nearly a year to pay back just 45% of the total, Jump4Love refuse to honour the agreement…but I am not too concerned, because I will see them in court, even though the two registered companies (one in the UK and one in the USA)  do not appear to have filed any accounts!

I think the fact that Jump4Love fails to beef up their security systems and procedures speaks volumes for their real attitude to the use of fake profiles and/or the risks posed to their clients of becoming a victim of a fraud or deception. Most of the measures I have suggested could be automated and employed at minimal cost, but of course, fewer ‘active’ profiles means less income…so Jump4Love has little incentive to get it right. Sure, reputation is important in the online dating business; however, if Jump4Love are prepared to admit I was a victim of a fraud and deception, agree a refund and then renege on this agreement…then it is difficult to believe that reputation is important to them. If a business is motivated by profit and does not care about their reputation…then it is a very serious red flag to any man contemplating giving them any money. It is no coincidence that Jump4Love is a favourite amongst agencies in Ukraine, given it is known for having minimal checks when compared with many similar dating sites.

Update: Jump4Love have contacted me and insisted that they had refunded the full $4823. When I checked my latest statements, I had received just $1158 of the $4823 and given it is more than 4 weeks since the last refund they claim to have processed, I think it is safe to conclude that it is not ‘stuck’ in the banking system. However, given their track record on refunds, I decided to audit all the refunds they claim to have made and, yet again, their was a massive difference between what they claimed to have sent and what I received. On the 20th October, they claimed they had refunded $12,402….but according to my audit, I had received just $6650….!!! An error, I don’t think so. Therefore, to conclude, after 11 months, I have received just $7808 of the $17,250 Jump4Love promised to refund. Just 45% of the total! I have sent a final demand to Jump4Love, and I will happily update this blog with the outcome.

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Be careful of the company you keep

January 9th, 2012

Anyone who seeks romance through a dating site such as Jump4Love will be genuinely shocked and disappointed to find that so many of the girls are actually rewarded for writing or chatting to them or that many of these girls are using fake profiles to communicate. But, I have covered my personal experience and the wider issues elsewhere in this blog. However, there is another side to this story and that is the ‘men’ that visit these sites for a cheap thrill, or worst still, treat the girls like they are a piece of meat. I hold the same level of contempt, if not more, for these perverts who treat these girls like whores or worse. One girl who is known to me and I will refer to as “The Victim” told me of one such man and, whilst I can’t confirm everything she has told me, I have seen two emails written by this man and I have had independent verification that this man had something of a reputation amongst the girls for his lewd and reprehensible behaviour.

I am aware of this man’s identity, or at least the one he uses on Jump4Love, but I will not reveal it here…not because I have any sympathy for this sack of shit, but because if he were a member of my family I would feel only immense shame. I will refer to him using the acronym “SOS” (Sack of Shit).

As I understand it, SOS is a failed, retired or unemployed “academic” living in Kent, a county just south of London. Although he claims to be 40 years old, I have seen a photo that SOS uses in his profile and, this weasel like scroat has either had a very hard life or he is much closer to 60! Although I have no evidence to back up this particular theory, I do have a vision of a man living off state benefits, in a dirty bedsit with only a computer, his right hand and the internet for company. I wonder also if he is not your archetypal misogynist!

According to The Victim, SOS had been writing to her for more than 18 months and claimed that he loved her and wanted to marry her. In spite of this she told me that SOS is a prolific writer who persistently pressured her to become a prostitute in her home town so that she could earn the money to pay for her passage to the UK. According to the account of The Victim, SOS told her that once she arrived in the UK, she could live with him and he would get her a job in a local club where she could continue to work as a prostitute and they could share the income. At the risk of bursting the bubble of SOS, I know for a fact that The Victim was not (and is not) a prostitute. According to her account, SOS would regularly interrogate her and she would feel obliged to satisfy his sick sexual fantasies by creating stories and telling him what he wanted to hear. I feel sure this is how the creep got his sexual excitement!

The Victim variously described SOS to me as “completely sick” and a “pervert”. Based on what she told me, I would not argue with that assessment. I also got the impression that she was more than a little intimidated by him given she felt that he was stalking her. She told me that he was completely obsessed and he just wouldn’t leave her alone. I spoke to another girl that worked with The Victim on Jump4Love and she independently verified that SOS had something of a reputation amongst the girls as being a complete pervert. Whilst this girl was not a friend of The Victim, she also confirmed to me that The Victim was certainly not a prostitute…and went on to explain that girls were often subjected to such treatment from men they met or communicated with through the dating site Jump4Love and even though the girls were often disgusted, it was considered an inevitable if disagreeable part of the job. She also explained to me that this was one reason why girls that did have honest or serious intentions quickly left the site once they encountered such perverts, leaving only those that had yet to learn from experience and those that were willing to accept this treatment in return for lucrative commissions. Of course, this left me wondering how proactive Jump4Love are, because they claim to monitor communications and yet, such behaviour appears to be widespread, rather than random events. The Victim informed me that she had curtailed all forms of communication with SOS in the early part of last year….and rightly so!

I can’t say whether SOS is a sick fantasist or if he was serious in his intent, but irrespective, I am not sure that UK law distinguishes between such vagaries. I am no expert in law, but as I understand it based on the following, to encourage a girl to enter prostitution, no matter where she lives, is a criminal offence.

Causing, Inciting and Controlling Prostitution for Gain
Causing or inciting prostitution for gain: Section 52 Sexual Offences Act 2003

This offence came into force on 1 May 2004.

Under section 52(1) a person commits an offence if:
a) he intentionally causes or incites another person to become a prostitute in any part of the world, and
b) he does so for or in the expectation of gain for himself or third party.

“In any part of the world” means that section 52 is contravened when a person is caused or incited in England, Wales or Northern Ireland to become a prostitute either in that jurisdiction or elsewhere in the UK or overseas.

In addition, based on what The Victim told me, there may even be an argument for conspiracy to traffic; given it is patently obvious that no work permit would be issued to a girl for the purpose of sexual exploitation or prostitution. If everything that I have been told by The Victim is true, then SOS would be wise to consider his position very carefully, because anyone, not just The Victim can report such matters to the Police. I detest, with a true passion, specimens like SOS, because they assume that everyone that visits the same places as they do, must be like them…and because they use a ‘mirror like’ image of themselves to judge others. It is little wonder that some girls have such a poor opinion of men that visit these dating sites where normal men are obliged to coexist with sick bastards like SOS who dare not ply their sick fantasies in their own countries for fear of persecution or prosecution.

Men like SOS will never find a partner, other than sort that cannot distinguish between good and bad, such as his right hand. In my view and based on what I have been told SOS is a scroat, a nonce and needs to spend some time at Her Majesty’s Pleasure where he can learn what it is like to become someone’s bitch!

If “you are judged by the company you keep” then I am grateful that through my experience and discoveries I have been able to extricate myself from this community. But any men with legitimate and sincere intentions need to be aware that men like SOS are active on Jump4Love and, for all intents and purposes, appear to remain unhindered by their actions, words or deeds…therefore this is the company you will be keeping. Girls continue to be recruited, many of whom will be paid by the local agencies that engage them for each letter and chat session…so apart from having to be in the same company as men like SOS, you will spend most of your time (and money) trying to discover if the girl you are communicating with is honest, sincere and genuine, or just in it for the money. If you want this, then go ahead, if not, then look elsewhere. Unless, or until Jump4Love get their act together, they should not be rewarded with your custom, and no matter how many blogs Jump4Love set up to drown out my voice, I will continue to warn anyone willing to conduct a little research before they part with their money.

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Jump4Love, no fake profiles, no fraud, real ladies only. Really?

January 6th, 2012

Internet marriage agency or dating sites would have you believe that the only scams you should be concerned about are those where a girl asks for money. This is probably the biggest scam of them all, because the reality is these types of scams pale into insignificance when compared with the amount of money men are scammed out of from the sites themselves. Whether it is with the connivance of the dating sites or not, the fact is, the vast majority of girls on these sites are there because they receive commission for communicating with men by letter or in web chat. Contrary to what these dating sites would have you believe, some girls operate multiple profiles, some are married or have regular boyfriends and many are students or models. However, these dating sites put a great deal of effort into redirecting your attention from the reality or they blatantly lie about the facts.

Take Jump4Love, they have put a lot of time and effort into creating positive propaganda where they set up sites and blogs which extol the virtues of their main site, using tags such as; “no fake profiles”, “no fraud”, “no scam” and “only real ladies”. Now they know and I know for a fact, that these tags are not only misleading, they are also untrue. That notwithstanding, anyone that cares to look at Jump4Love’s terms and conditions will note that they go to great pains to distance themselves from the girls on their dating site; claiming that they are not responsible for the girls that are featured on their site and that they can’t guarantee that the girls genuine.

Jump4Love have mirror sites and also a number of blogs. The former is not unusual, but the latter is in my view, a cynical attempt to create positive and misleading claims about the virtues of their site and to drown out the more relevant and factual stories about people that have had a bad experience at Jump4Love or, for that matter, similar dating sites. The blogs typically contain generic and condescending stories with backlinks to Jump4Love’s main site. I also note that some blogs which contain positive reviews about jump4Love also have a ‘referrer’ code allowing the person writing the post to be identified and, presumably, to receive some reward or commission for each referrer that subsequently starts spending money with Jump4Love…therefore, you can take anything that is written within these particular posts with a pinch of salt.

These sites operate with virtual impunity with no oversight and little or no protection for the men that believe the sites are genuine dating sites. Unless, or until the authorities crack down on this international scandal, it is left for those who have had real experience to write about them in the hope that others do not follow the same path. I urge those that have been scammed by any of these dating sites to write about their experiences and expose the girls and sites…and for those that are considering registering with a dating site, I would recommend that they complete their research and check the sites terms and conditions before they part with any money. I reiterate what I have already written, the biggest money making scam is not the girls asking for money, but the money men spend on these sites communicating with girls who are being paid to write and chat.

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Jump4Love, liars and cheats?

December 31st, 2011

At the beginning of the year I wrote to Jump4Love once I had discovered that I had been the victim of a deception orchestrated via their website. In my particular case, I had been communicating with a girl called “Kristina Smirnova” for a period of 9 months. However, after having my suspicions raised, I discovered that Kristina Smirnova did not exist and she was, in fact a girl called Natalia Granchenko. My investigations concluded that Natalia Granchenko had been allowed to set up a fake profile by her Agency Director, Margarita Naumenko to facilitate this deception. As I understand it, this was common practice with Naumenko. At the time of writing to Jump4Love, I had spent in excess of $25,000 for web chats and letters with this girl and, perhaps foolishly, I had sent Natalia Granchenko some $4102 through Western Union. I can confirm however, that Natalia Granchenko has now repaid me the full $4102.

Jump4Love promised to investigate and eventually responded to me via email. They confirmed that I had indeed been the victim of a serious fraud and deception. They said that they had removed the offending profiles. They also informed me that they had calculated I had spent $17,250 communicating with this girl and said they would be providing me with a full refund. Jump4Love also said they would be terminating Margarita Naumenko’s agency agreement and removing all of the girls associated with her. In fact, it was to take several months…and only with my help, that they finally removed most of the girls that were associated with Margarita Naumenko. However, I know for a fact that some of these girls, many scammers amongst them, simply moved to other agencies and set up new profiles with Jump4Love. Of course, Jump4Love claimed this could not happen…but it did and they only reacted when I reported a specific case…and eventually I got bored of being their policeman! Anyway, I digress, back to why I call Jump4Love “Liars and Cheats”.

Following their written confirmation that I was entitled to a refund of $17,250, Jump4Love started to issue refunds in small amounts, mirroring payments I had made to them. However, these payments were sporadic and to be honest, I expected a full refund…not a ‘payment plan. When I queried this, at first they said they were paying me as and when they got the money from Margarita Naumenko. I told them that this was unacceptable, not least because any arrangement they had with Naumenko was a commercial one and nothing to do with my claim. I also made clear that at no point did they make clear that refunds were conditional. They wrote back and agreed that the refunds were not conditional, but instead, they were having problems reconciling the refunds with payments I made as a consequence of administration issues with their card processor. I accepted this argument and patiently waited for the money to be ‘drip fed’ into my credit card accounts. I have to admit I found this incredibly irritating, because attempting to reconcile these refunds was very time consuming.

In October of this year I noticed that I had not received any refunds from Jump4Love for several weeks, although this was not unusual, I was beginning to lose patience with Jump4Love for taking so long to refund the $17,250. They responded by informing me that the “CEO” was not happy with my blog and they would not process further refunds unless, or until I passed over the access passwords to this blog. I responded that I felt all the comments contained in this blog were fair, true and offered a “balanced” insight into my experience. I also made clear that I would never submit to any form of “blackmail”. They eventually responded stating that it was not their intention to blackmail me and acknowledging that I had been fair in my commentary on this blog. They also said that they would recommence the refunds immediately with view to refunding the balance owed within 6 weeks. They also asked that I acknowledge on this blog that they had taken responsibility an refunded my money, I replied that it was always my intention to highlight the fact that Jump4Love had refunded my payments because I wanted this blog to be an honest and fair account of my experiences. Jump4Love accepted this and over the following few weeks, informed me that refunds totalling in excess of $4823 had been made. [According to Jump4Love, this meant that they had met all their obligations in terms of the refunds. I was to later discover, after I competed an audit of the refunds, that this was a complete lie!]

When I checked with my card issuers, none of these payments had been received. I queried this with Jump4Love and they asked me for more information about my credit cards, I thought this was strange given all the information they needed to complete a refund is already there with the original payment, but I gave them what they asked for. When I heard nothing, I asked them to provide me with details of the refunds, including the transaction numbers so that I could get my card issuers to trace the refunds. I heard nothing further from jump4Love!

In conclusion, I believe I am fully justified in accusing Jump4Love of being liars and cheats, in fact, I would add to that and further accuse them of deception. They are liars because they claimed to have issued refunds when clearly they didn’t. They are cheats because they have attempted to cheat me out of money they themselves admit was taken from me through fraud. And, in my view, they are guilty of deception because they deceived me into believing that they were honourable people that would meet their obligations. If Jump4Love meet their obligations in the coming weeks, I will update this blog to reflect that, however, if they continue to ignore my communications, I declare publicly that I intend to issue civil proceedings against them for all of my losses, this includes the $25,000 that I spent with them directly (in the form of credits) as well as my losses incurred as a direct consequence of Jump4Love’s failure to adopt reasonable security measures to minimise the possibility of their clients being deceived through the connivance of dishonest agents and scammers using fake profiles. As I have mentioned elsewhere in this blog, at the time I was using Jump4Love, their “security measures” were virtually non-existent, they performed no background checks on new agencies or their directors, they never audited their agents or affiliates and they operated a system that allowed fake profiles to be set up routinely and easily. In other words, in my opinion they were reckless and breached their legal duty of care. Even if it was not their intent, through their lack of any effective initial and ongoing security measures, Jump4Love were arguably complicit in facilitating the deception.

I am sure there are many other men that have been the victims of a suspected deception involving girls featured on the Jump4Love website. If you suspect this is the case, I invite you to write to me with as much information as possible. If you want to remain anonymous, that is okay, my intention is to identify a pattern amongst certain girls and/or agencies and then submit this with my own evidence to the appropriate authorities with a view to persuading them to investigate the activities of Jump4Love, their agents and the girls. Anyone wishing to join me in a civil action against Jump4Love to recover payments they believe have been made through an active deception is also welcome to contact me; however, you need to be aware that in any civil action, your name will have to be revealed as party to the claim.

Update: Jump4Love have contacted me and insisted that they had refunded the full $4823. When I checked my latest statements, I had received just $1158 of the $4823 and given it is more than 4 weeks since the last refund they claim to have processed, I think it is safe to conclude that it is not ‘stuck’ in the banking system. However, given their track record on refunds, I decided to audit all the refunds they claim to have made and, yet again, their was a massive difference between what they claimed to have sent and what I received. On the 20th October, they claimed they had refunded $12,402….but according to my audit, I had received just $6650….!!! An error, I don’t think so. Therefore, to conclude, after 11 months, I have received just $7808 of the $17,250 Jump4Love promised to refund. Just 45% of the total! I have sent a final demand to Jump4Love, and I will happily update this blog with the outcome.

 

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European Dating Sites-What the girls are really saying about you!

December 30th, 2011

Have you ever wondered what the girls on these so called dating sites or marriage agencies think of you?

Here is a forum used by girls from Ukraine who actively and without apology discuss the various aspects of using so called dating sites and marriage agencies: http://forum.od.ua/showthread.php?t=103036. Although the forum is in Russian/Ukrainian, you can translate each page and get a useful insight into the real views, objectives and goals of these girls. Persevere, it is an eye opener!

For example, they like to refer to men using the dating sites as “clients”, and some girls prefer the less complimentary term of “peasants”. Not something you would expect from girls who join a dating site wanting  to find a “foreign husband”. But, this is the harsh reality of these dating sites, far from offering an opportunity for men and women to meet beyond international borders, they offer lucrative employment for students, married women, girls with local boyfriends and yes, I assume, a few girls with serious intentions.

In these posts, girls refer to the commissions they are paid by local marriage agencies to engage in communications with men. Some want to move further up the ladder and become a ‘marriage agency’ or affiliate, but with such easy money to be made, the dating websites can set the barrier high, often, according to these posts, requiring a minimum of 20 to 50 new girls with each new agency. You can read the complaints made about various dating websites when girls or, more accurately, the local agent or affiliate is “fined” for some misdemeanour.

Girls offer each other advice on the best ways of ensuring that their ‘real life’ does not get mixed up in the fake life they lead whilst earning money from dating websites via their local marriage agency. It would appear that not all men are as stupid as the girls like to believe, and to the indignation of these girls, some men are starting to search for the girls they are regularly communicating with on social networking sites such as: VKontakte.ru; Mail.ru and Odnoklassniki.ru. I assume this is because men want to ensure that they are communicating with real girls and not fakes, or perhaps it is because they want to check the veracity of the statements and claims made by the girls they are writing to or chatting with. Either way; these girls are not happy and some complain bitterly that their “work life” should not encroach upon their “personal life”!!! Am I missing something here? I thought the whole purpose of girls joining these websites was to find a suitable partner and change their personal life for the better. Okay I digress, back to reality…the girls are worried about these incursions and offer each other advice. For example, they suggest using a nickname or pseudonym, hiding profiles from anyone that is not a friend, changing their age, date of birth and/or their city of residence. Above all, they firmly recommend not using the same photos from their dating profiles within their social networking profiles. It wouldn’t be wise to make it too easy for us!!!!

However, what really has the girls up in arms is the fact that some of the dating sites, the two specifically mentioned are Dream Marriage and Anastasia, are also getting in on the act and routinely searching for and checking the social networking profiles of the girls registered on their sites. It would appear that, depending on how naughty the girls have been regarding their personal situations, they could end up being fined or having their profile permanently deleted from the dating website. No profile, no work…it is easy to understand why the girls would be so outraged that their “working life should infringe on their personal life”. Interestingly, none of the girls appear to be too concerned about the fact that they routinely lie to men, pretending to be looking for a life partner, when in reality; they are just trying to earn as much money as possible through letters and webchat…no matter how many lies they have to tell to achieve their goals. Spend an hour or two reading these posts and you will quickly realise how mercenary these girls are. I read hundreds of posts…and not one mentioned anything about girls wanting to meet the love of their life.

Whilst liars and cheats appear acceptable to the dating websites, it is apparent that they do not want girls who are using fake profiles and some dating site owners are being very proactive in their attempts to remove these girls. I suspect this has more to do with the fact that men can also complete such checks and the website owners don’t want to be caught out, rather than a genuine attempt to ensure that men are not deceived or mislead. A cynic may even surmise that the ongoing investigation by the FBI Internet Crimes Division is encouraging many of the USA based websites to get their act together! That said, the only sites that are mentioned on this forum in terms of having a proactive approach to weeding out fakes is Dream Marriage and Anastasia. The likes of Jump4Love, MariyaClub, Cinderella and a few others are notable by their absence from the commentary of this particular forum, suggesting that the anti-fraud measures on these websites is weaker. That said, in the case of jump4Love and relying on my own personal experience with them, it comes as no surprise. In fact, one girl even referred to jump4Love as a “porn site”, whilst that term may not be included in the J4L marketing material, the fact remains that if you want a cheap thrill, then Jump4Love is the place to go…because there are many girls there that will willing remove their clothes (and more) at the drop of a hat (or more accurately in exchange for a few credits)…and the site even encourages voyeurs, by permitting men to “spy” on girls that are engaged with other men. Girls don’t complain of course, because they will get paid even more money, so why not put on a show? I don’t know if this would class jump4Love as a porn site, but it certainly sets itself apart from other dating sites.

Anyway, for those of you that are considering subscribing to, or buying credits with an Eastern European dating website (or marriage agency), I would strongly recommend that you first visit the forum mentioned in this post. You will quickly realise that many of the girls on these sites have a cynical and insulting approach the men they meet during the course of our job. They may not ask you for money directly, but it is clear from their own words, that they communicate with us for the money…and woe betide anyone or anything that affects their “personal lives”…after all, your emotions are secondary…men (or as they prefer “clients” or “peasants”) are just a means to exploit and make money from.

If you want to meet a woman from Eastern Europe, the best advice I can give you is to join a local social networking site such as: VKontakte.ru; Mail.ru and Odnoklassniki.ru (there are many more micro sites)…these are free and because there is no financial motive, you are less likely to be scammed or deceived. As for the Eastern European dating sites I would give them a wide berth…as one girl points out on this forum, it is becoming harder and harder to earn money because men simply no longer respond to unsolicited letters from the girls. One final thing….most of these girls are particularly adept at Photoshop or similar derivatives, you have been warned!

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Is Jump4Love a Marriage Agency?

December 30th, 2011

On the front page of the Jump4Love website it states very clearly that it is an “International Marriage Agency”. However, take a look at their terms and conditions and they say the opposite. “Jump4love.com is a communication website for men from all over the world and women from Ukraine and Russia. We ARE NOT A MARRIAGE AGENCY and do not offer any matrimonial services. We charge users for utilizing online communication facilities. Jump4love has no personal relations with the women on the site. ‘We DO NOT VOUCH for the ladies’ conduct as well as we cannot guarantee that all ladies are genuine.” At the very least, this is misleading, but I would argue that it is a deliberate attempt to avoid any responsibility if things go wrong.

Take a look on YouTube and you will see videos of girls with the statement “no fake, real ladies only”. Now read their terms again….” We DO NOT VOUCH for the ladies’ conduct as well as we cannot guarantee that all ladies are genuine”. Does anyone notice a pattern emerging? In ‘marketing terms’, Jump4Love claim to be a marriage agency and also that they do not to have fake girls or profiles. However in their terms and conditions, they attempt to distance themselves from such statements. This should serve as a warning to anyone that considers using their services.

However, from a legal perspective, no matter what their terms state, Jump4Love cannot claim to have no responsibility. Your contract is with Jump4Love, not with the local ‘marriage agencies’ they use to recruit girls. It is Jump4Love that determines the criteria used for their local agents and it is Jump4Love that determines security checks, proof of identity, monitoring and so on. The local marriage agencies only act as an agent for jump4Love. If the local marriage agency commits an act of deception, then it is between the marriage agency and Jump4Love, it has nothing to do with the man buying credits from Jump4Love. The bottom line is; if you have corresponding with a girl that is using a fake identity, you are entitled to claim a full refund from Jump4Love. In addition, in some countries, if you have bought your ‘credits’ using a credit card, then the credit card company is jointly and severally liable in the event you have a legitimate claim.

I know from personal experience that it is not difficult for girls to set up fake profiles on Jump4Love, indeed, some girls will “work” 3, 4 or maybe even 5 profiles…sending letters to countless men knowing that they will share in the revenues generated if a man is stupid enough to engage them. Jump4Love give the impression that girls can only be added if they show themselves on camera alongside their passport. This may be done is some instances, but I know for a fact, that it is not done in every case. In addition, what Jump4Love do not tell you, is that a lot of girls become disillusioned and leave, but…these girls can’t delete their profiles. Only the local marriage agency or Jump4Love can delete profiles. So what Jump4Love will not tell you, is they can’t be certain that the profiles of girls that have left are immediately deleted. What Jump4Love will not tell you, is that if the local marriage agency decides not to delete the profile and instead, give it to another girl, then Jump4Love will never know unless it is reported to them. Why? Because even though Jump4Love have some of the weakest systems for verifying the identities of new girls recruited to their site, their ongoing checks are even worse…in fact, I would say they are virtually non-existent. Jump4Love is not proactive in attempting to weed out those using fake profiles.

Jump4Love will brag about their security measures which are supposed to offer “clients” some comfort provided they communicate through the site, but the reality is, these security measures are limited to key words…and this is more about protecting their revenue streams than the interests of their clients. Ask Jump4Love to tell you how their security measures proactively protect you and it is likely to be a very short answer. Some other dating sites employ a proactive programme designed to weed out ‘fakes’, including, but not limited to asking girls about specific conversations they had with men, asking them to turn on their webcam immediately and searching social networking sites to check the veracity of statements made by the girls they feature on their sites.

It is fair to say that men can be scammed by girls for money and most websites can monitor this through keyword searches offering a small degree of protection, however, most men are now getting wise to these particular scams. The reality is…and what the ‘dating websites’ will not tell you, is that men lose considerably more money when they discover (and many never do) that the girls they are communicating with are doing so only because they are being paid to do so…and/or they girls they are communicating with are fakes!

However, in spite of everything I have written, in my particular case, even when Jump4Love admitted that I had been the victim of fraud and agreed to refund my money, it was not that simple. Having agreed to refund over $17,000 11 months ago, I have only received around 65%. At first they said that they could only refund the money once they had recovered it from the director of the local marriage agency, then they agreed that this was not the arrangement. Then they said they could only send small amounts because they had to verify each transaction with the credit card merchant they were using (11 months?) Then they started to plead poverty, claiming that they must first earn the money before they can return it to me. Then in October, they stopped paying. I wrote to them and they said they would only pay the balance if I agreed to pass over the password and control of this website. I told them that I would not submit to blackmail and refused. They subsequently said that they would be happy to continue the refunds if I acknowledged this on this blog…I informed them that it was always my intention to do precisely that.

In November, Jump4Love claimed to have sent me a little over $4800. When I checked with my credit card companies, they said they had received no such money. Jump4Love insisted that the refunds had been processed and when I asked for proof…I heard nothing more. So…on top of everything else, I can now confirm that Jump4Love are liars and guilty of a deception. I can also confirm that I will be issuing proceedings against them and my credit card company in the New Year. I will be writing more about this in a separate post.

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Oplachuvana robota dlya lystuvannya z cholovikamy v shlyubne ahent·stvo v Ukraïnu

March 21st, 2011

Цей відкритий лист до будь-якій дівчині, що розглядає можливість прийняття позиції, де вони платять, щоб спілкуватися зі мною на знайомства або шлюбу на сайті.Вона також може бути корисним попередженням для будь-якої дівчини, які вже вступили на цей шлях.

Отже, ви бачили рекламу “перекладачів” чи, може бути, щось більш очевидним, Рекламна пропонуємо Вам частка комісій породжений від спілкування з іноземними чоловіками. Він буде пропонувати гнучкий графік роботи і високий дохід, так що це дуже заманливо, але те, що реальність таких “заплатив” позиції? Я постараюся пояснити.

Більшість чоловіків вступати в міжнародні “шлюбу і сайти знайомств” шукає кохання, і вони повідомили оператори цих веб-сайтів, дівчинки щирі наміри, що дівчатка також хочуть знайти любов і що ці дівчата, за їх власними причин, прагнуть чоловіка-іноземця. Крім того, оператори цих сайтів йдуть у великі зусилля, щоб запевнити чоловіків, які платять за ці послуги, що дівчата є справжніми і мали свою індивідуальність перевірені, в тому числі їх сімейний стан, адресу і паспорт. Але, реальність дещо інша, тому що всі оператори з цих шлюбів і сайти знайомств використання місцевих агентів або агентств, і не всі місцеві шлюбу і шлюбні агентства щирі.

Наприклад, якщо місцеве агентство пропонує платити вам спілкуватися з чоловіками, ви можете бути впевнені, що люди не знають про це, тому вони вже беруть участь у формі обману. Звичайно, деякі агентства пропонують справжню послуги з перекладу, де дівчата і перекладач отримати частку доходів, але з сучасними онлайн, і безкоштовно, послуги перекладу, це не є необхідним.Послуги з перекладу може бути просто легендою … бути дуже обережні!

Перш ніж приступити до цієї “роботи” необхідно у повній мірі зрозуміти, що в кінцевому підсумку можна скоєнні злочинного діяння, які можуть опинитися у в’язниці термін від 5 до 8 років, не те, що “небажані” агентства були б готові визнати вас . Дозвольте мені навести вам приклад, чоловіки сказали власникам веб-сайтів, що всі дівчата перевіряються і щирі, такі веб-сайт операторів також наполягають на тому, що дівчатка не отримують зарплату, врешті-решт, ніхто не буде платити таку непомірну плату, якщо вони знали, дівчата приділяється чат і не були щирими!. Більшість чоловіків вважають, що це правда, але якщо ні, то вони будуть просити дівчину вони спілкуються с. Тому що дівчатка під контролем агентства, навіть якщо вони хотіли сказати правду, то буде заперечувати це. Таким чином, відразу ж, ви вчинили злочинний акт “обман”, а потім, якщо ви приймаєте оплату таких повідомлень, ви здійснюєте акт шахрайства і для цього, термін тюремного ув’язнення може бути до 8 років. Звичайно, є величезна різниця між здійснення акту шахрайства і переслідування, і ви можете розглянути нагороди стоять ризику, але люди зараз починають чинити опір, шляхом подачі скарги, і публікації їх досвідом в інтернеті , з фотографіями. Ви дійсно хочете цього?

Деякі дівчата з сумнівною моральності також спробує використовувати обман або шахрайство, щоб отримати гроші від чоловіків. Навіть якщо вони не хочуть робити цього, менш авторитетними установами, можуть заохочувати таку практику з дівчиною і агентства обмін на доходи від цієї афери. Тому, цілком можливо, що простий акт реагування на рекламу, щоб отримати виплату для спілкування з чоловіками, може привести вас на шлях засудження в кримінальному порядку. Крім того, можна знайти фотографії опубліковані в усьому інтернеті для ваших друзів і сім’ї, щоб побачити, чи дійсно ви хочете цього?

Недобросовісні агентства можуть навіть попросити вас створити підроблені профілі, так що ви можете збільшити ваші доходи (і, звичайно, установи комісії), тут вони можуть навіть надати вам особистість і фотографії, щоб зробити це. Ви будете чекати початку листування чаті з нічого не підозрюють чоловіків.Звичайно, це може істотно збільшити свій потенційний дохід, але тепер ви робите навмисний обман і шахрайство, і це може мати дуже серйозні наслідки.Шахрайство не злочин без жертв, чоловіки обманюють справжні люди і реальність, тому що це “міжнародний” шахрайство, уряди багатьох країн починають втомлюватися від тих випадках, коли їх громадяни потерпілих від злочинних дій.

Деякі дівчата були спокуса використати “відеочат”, щоб показати своє тіло в порядок, що вони можуть збільшити свій дохід, тому що чоловіки готові платити дивитися дівчаток деградують самі. Але врахуйте це, якщо відеочат сесії є “відкритою”, іншими словами це не приватний чат і інші люди можуть дивитися, то в даний час беруть участь у публікації порно, ви не тільки порно зірки, але ви ризикуєте бути звинуваченим про поширення порно. Щось ще, щоб розглянути, є те, що не існує такого поняття, як приватний чат, будь-який з цих сесій можуть бути записані за допомогою недорогого частина програмного забезпечення, доступних в Інтернеті, так що ваші “подвиги” можуть бути записані і опубліковані в Інтернеті, зробити Ви дійсно хочете піти на цей ризик?
Якщо вам не пощастило взяти участь з сумнівною репутацією агентства ви можете навіть важко залишити.Деякі дівчата важко мають свої профілі видалені, інші повідомляють, що їхні профілі відновлена ​​по тому, з іншою дівчиною, роблячи вигляд, що їх. Або, може бути, їх фотографії використовуються іншу дівчину, з іншою назвою. Всі ці речі можуть і не статися.

Інша справа, часто забувають дівчаток будь-який дохід, “заробили” через комісії обкладається податком. Крім того, якщо дівчата використовують обман або шахрайство для отримання грошей від людей, це не подарунок, але доходу і, отже, вона обкладається податком. Ви дійсно хочете, щоб пояснити такої діяльності податкової поліції / Я так не думаю!

Звичайно, не всі шлюби і сайти знайомств погано і не всі шлюби й шлюбні агентства погано, але якщо хто пропонує платити вам для спілкування з чоловіками, то ви повинні розглядати це як дуже великий застережливий знак і дуже уважно мій слів. Ви хочете, щоб брехати і обманювати? Ви хочете, щоб стати на злочинний шлях обману і шахрайства? Ви хочете, щоб втратити контроль над вашої особистості і життя? Ви хочете взяти на себе ризик, що ваші друзі та родина дізнатися, що ви робите? Ви хочете, щоб знайти себе з дуже великий податок рахунок на оплату після гроші пішли? Це може виглядати як “легкі гроші”, але ризики високі, а сувора реальність є люди, які чинять опір і в кінцевому підсумку влада буде боротися з цією “галузі” … і не очікуємо, установ, щоб підтримати вас!

Я щиро вірю, що переважна більшість дівчат не стати на цей шлях, якщо вони знали, ризики та можливі наслідки.Так, я визнаю, що Є деякі дівчата з реальною схильність до гроші обманювати і легко, але я вважаю, що вони є винятком із правила. Я знаю, від дівчат я говорив, що багато хто з них мають тільки зрозумів реальність їх “нову роботу” після того як вони почали, а потім знайти його важко зупинити або залишити. Якщо цієї статті не перешкоджає тільки декілька дівчаток з метою тих же помилок, то вона буде мати варто було писати.

Я з розумінням ставлюся до справжньої операторів і менеджерів знайомства і шлюбу веб-сайти або місцеві агентства, але реальність така, що якщо вони хочуть діяти в рамках авторитетних промисловості, то вони також зобов’язані викривати корумпованих установ та веб-сайтів. Вони не можуть сидіти склавши руки і чекати, що інші роблять це за них. Якщо який-небудь авторитетного агентства або на сайті обурений моїй статті, то запитайте себе, це … ти зробив все, щоб поліпшити репутацію вашої галузі? Якщо ні, то не звинувачуйте мене за спробу зробити вашу роботу за вас! Я не звинувачую кожен оператор сайту та шлюбне агентство, справді, я визнаю, що Існують авторитетні бізнес там, але зараз самий час для позитивного і активної дії авторитетних операторів веб-сайту і шлюбних агенцій, тому що, відверто кажучи, ми, чоловіки, вже досить шахрайства, і ми збираємося дати відсіч!

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Poluchitʹ oplachivaemuyu rabotu dlya obshcheniya s muzhchinami na saĭtah znakomstv

March 21st, 2011

Это открытое письмо к любой девушке, что рассматривает возможность принятия позиции, где они платят, чтобы общаться со мной на знакомства или брака на сайте. Она также может быть полезным предупреждением для любой девушки, которые уже вступили на этот путь.

Итак, вы видели рекламу “переводчиков” или, может быть, что-то более очевидным, Рекламная предлагаем Вам доля комиссий порожденный от общения с иностранными мужчинами. Он будет предлагать гибкий график работы и высокий доход, так что это очень заманчиво, но то, что реальность таких “заплатил” позиции? Я постараюсь объяснить.

Большинство мужчин вступать в международные “брака и сайты знакомств” ищет любовь, и они сообщили операторы этих веб-сайтов, девочки искренние намерения, что девочки также хотят найти любовь и что эти девушки, по их собственным причинам, стремятсямужа-иностранца. Кроме того, операторы этих сайтов идут в большие усилия, чтобы заверить людей, что платить за эти услуги, что девушки являются подлинными и имели свою индивидуальность проверены, в том числе их семейное положение, адрес и паспорт. Но, реальность несколько иная, потому что все операторы из этих браков и сайты знакомств использования местных агентов или агентств, и не все местные брака и брачные агентства искренни.

Например, если местное агентство предлагает платить вам общаться с мужчинами, вы можете быть уверены, что люди не знают об этом, поэтому они уже участвуют в форме обмана. Конечно, некоторые агентства предлагают подлинную услуги по переводу, где девушки и переводчик получить долю доходов, но с современными онлайн, и бесплатно, услуги перевода, это не является необходимым. Услуги по переводу может быть просто легендой … быть очень осторожны!

Прежде чем приступить к этой “работе” необходимо в полной мере понять, что в конечном итоге можно совершении преступного деяния, которые могут оказаться в тюрьме срок от 5 до 8 лет, не то, что “нежелательные” агентства были бы готовы признать вас . Позвольте мне привести вам пример, мужчины сказали владельцам веб-сайтов, что все девушки проверяются и искренние, эти веб-сайт операторов также настаивают на том, что девочки не получают зарплату, в конце концов, никто не будет платить такую ​​непомерную плату, если они знали, девушки уделяется чат и не были

искренними!. Большинство мужчин считают, что это правда, но если нет, то они будут просить девушку они общаются с. Потому что девочки под контролем агентства, даже если они хотели сказать правду, то будет отрицать это. Таким образом, сразу же, вы совершили преступный акт “обман”, а затем, если вы принимаете оплату таких сообщений, вы совершаете акт мошенничества и для этого, срок тюремного заключения может быть до 8 лет. Конечно, есть огромная разница между совершения акта мошенничества и преследования, и вы можете рассмотреть награды стоят риска, но люди сейчас начинают сопротивляться, путем подачи жалобы, и публикации их опытом в интернете , с фотографиями.Вы действительно хотите этого?

Некоторые девушки с сомнительной нравственности также попытается использовать обман или мошенничество, чтобы получить деньги от мужчин.Даже если они не хотят делать этого, менее авторитетными учреждениями, могут поощрять такую ​​практику с девушкой и агентства обмен на доходы от этой аферы. Поэтому, вполне возможно, что простой акт реагирования на рекламу, чтобы получить выплату для общения с мужчинами, может привести вас на путь осуждения в уголовном порядке. Кроме того, можно найти фотографии опубликованы во всем интернете для ваших друзей и семьи, чтобы увидеть, действительно ли вы хотите этого?

Недобросовестные агентства могут даже попросить вас создать поддельные профили, так что вы можете увеличить ваши доходы (и, конечно, учреждения комиссии), здесь они могут даже предоставить вам личность и фотографии, чтобы сделать это. Вы будете ожидать начала переписки или чатов с ничего не подозревающих мужчин. Конечно, это может существенно увеличить свой потенциальный доход, но теперь вы совершаете преднамеренный обман и мошенничество, и это может иметь очень серьезные последствия. Мошенничество не преступление без жертв, мужчины обманывают настоящие люди и реальность, потому что это “международный” мошенничество, правительства многих стран начинают уставать от тех случаях, когда их граждане потерпевших от преступных действий.

Некоторые девушки были соблазн использовать “видеочат”, чтобы показать свое тело в порядок, что они могут увеличить свой доход, потому что мужчины готовы платить смотреть девочек деградируют сами. Но учтите это, если видеочат сессии является “открытой”, другими словами это не приватный чат и другие люди могут смотреть, то в настоящее время участвуют в публикации порно, вы не только порно звезды, но вы рискуете быть обвиненным о распространении порно.Что-то еще, чтобы рассмотреть, является то, что не существует такого понятия, как частный чат, любой из этих сессий могут быть записаны с помощью недорогого часть программного обеспечения, доступных в Интернете, так что ваши “подвиги” могут быть записаны и опубликованы в Интернете, сделать Вы действительно хотите пойти на этот риск?
Если вам не повезло принять участие с сомнительной репутацией агентства вы можете даже трудно оставить.Некоторые девушки трудно имеют свои профили удалены, другие сообщают, что их профили возобновлена ​​спустя, с другой девушкой, делая вид, что их. Или, может быть, их фотографии используются другую девушку, с другим названием. Все эти вещи могут и не случиться.

Другое дело, часто забывают девочек любой доход, “заработали” через комиссии облагается налогом.Кроме того, если девушки используют обман или мошенничество для получения денег от людей, это не подарок, но дохода и, следовательно, она облагается налогом. Вы действительно хотите, чтобы объяснить такой деятельности налоговой полиции / Я так не думаю!

Конечно, не все браки и сайты знакомств плохо и не все браки и брачные агентства плохо, но если кто предлагает платить вам для общения с мужчинами, то вы должны рассматривать это как очень большой предупреждающий знак и очень внимательно мой слов.Вы хотите, чтобы лгать и обманывать? Вы хотите, чтобы встать на преступный путь обмана и мошенничества? Вы хотите, чтобы потерять контроль над вашей личности и жизни? Вы хотите взять на себя риск, что ваши друзья и семья узнать, что вы делаете?Вы хотите, чтобы найти себя с очень большой налог счет на оплату после деньги пошли? Это может выглядеть как “легкие деньги”, но риски высоки, а суровая реальность есть люди, которые сопротивляются и в конечном итоге власти будут бороться с этой “отрасли” … и не ожидаем, учреждений, чтобы поддержать вас!

Я искренне верю, что подавляющее большинство девушек не встать на этот путь, если они знали, риски и возможные последствия. Да, я признаю, что Есть некоторые девушки с реальной склонность к деньги обманывать и легко, но я считаю, что они являются исключением из правила. Я знаю, от девушек я говорил, что многие из них имеют только понял реальность их “новую работу” после того как они начали, а потом найти его трудно остановить или оставить. Если настоящей статье не препятствует только несколько девочек из совершения тех же ошибок, то она будет иметь стоило писать.

Я с пониманием отношусь к подлинной операторов и менеджеров знакомства и брака веб-сайты или местные агентства, но реальность такова, что если они хотят действовать в рамках авторитетных промышленности, то они также обязаны разоблачать коррумпированных учреждений и веб-сайтов. Они не могут сидеть сложа руки и ожидать, что другие делают это за них. Если какой-либо авторитетного агентства или на сайте возмущен моей статье, то спросите себя, это … ты сделал все, чтобы улучшить репутацию вашей отрасли? Если нет, то не вините меня за попытку сделать вашу работу за вас! Я не обвиняю каждый оператор сайта и брачное агентство, в самом деле, я признаю, что Существуют авторитетные бизнес там, но сейчас самое время для положительного и активного действия авторитетных операторов веб-сайта и брачных агентств, потому что, откровенно говоря, мы, мужчины, уже достаточно мошенничества, и мы собираемся дать отпор!

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A warning for girls offered a job where they are paid to chat

March 21st, 2011

I have written an open letter to girls thinking of becoming part of an industry where they are paid by local agencies to communicate with men or marriage and dating sites. I will be publishing this in Ukrainian and Russian using an online translator, but I hope it will make enough sense to act as a potential warning or ‘red flag’ to girls considering accepting one of these highly paid “jobs” with flexible hours. Of course, I accept that my efforts may be futile, but I genuinely believe that many girls simply don’t know what they are letting themselves in for. People are not born with criminal intent, instead, they are lead into it, sometimes as willing participants, but most often, as naive individuals that quickly get out of their depth. Yes, even if I appear naive right now, I sincerely believe that some of these girls could resist the lure of easy money once they have fully understood the possible consequences of their actions. We will, as they say, see what happens! Here is my open letter….

This is an open letter to any girl that is considering accepting a position where they are paid to communicate with me on a dating or marriage website. It can also be a useful warning to any girl that has already embarked on this road.

So, you have seen an advertisement for “translators” or perhaps, something more obvious, an advert offering you a share of the commissions generated from communicating with foreign men. It will offer flexible hours and high income, so it is very tempting, but what is the reality of such ‘paid’ positions? I will endeavour to explain.

Most men  join international ‘marriage and dating sites’ looking for love and they are told by the operators of these websites that the girls have sincere intentions, that the girls also want to find love and that these girls, for their own reasons, seek a foreign husband. In addition, the operators of these websites go to great pains to assure men that pay for these services that the girl are genuine and have had their identities checked, including their marital status, address and passport. But, the reality is somewhat different, because all of the operators of these marriage and dating websites use local agents or agencies and not all local marriage and dating agencies are sincere.

For example, if a local agency is offering to pay you to chat to men, you can be sure that the men don’t know about this, therefore they are already involved in a form of deception. Of course, some agencies do offer genuine translation services, where the girl and the translator get a share of the income, but with modern online, and free, translation services, this is no longer necessary. Translation services could just be a cover story…be very aware!

Before you embark on this “work” you need to fully understand that you may end up committing a criminal act that could end up in a jail term of 5 to 8 years, not something an ‘undesirable’ agency would be willing to admit to you. Let me give you an example, men are told by the website owners that all the girls are verified and sincere, these website operators also insist that girls do not get paid, after all, no man would pay such exorbitant fees if they knew girls were being paid to chat and were not sincere!. Most men believe this to be true, but if not, they will ask the girl they are communicating with. Because the girls are being monitored by the agency, even if they wanted to tell the truth they will have to deny this. Therefore, immediately, you have committed the criminal act of “deception”, and then, if you accept payment for such communications, you commit the act of fraud and for this, the jail term can be up to 8 years. Of course, there is a world of difference between committing an act of fraud and being prosecuted, and you may consider the rewards are worth the risk, but men are now starting to fight back, by filing complaints, and publishing their experiences on the internet, with photographs. Do you really want this?

Some girls with questionable morals will also attempt to use deception or fraud to get money from men. Even if they don’t want to do this, less reputable agencies may encourage this practice with the girl and the agency sharing in the proceeds of this fraud. Therefore, it is quite possible that the simple act of responding to an advertisement to get paid for chatting to men, could lead you on the path to a criminal conviction. Alternatively, you could find your photograph published all over the internet for your friends and family to see, do you really want this?

Some disreputable agencies may even ask you to set up fake profiles, so that you can increase your income (and, of course, the agencies commission), here they may even provide you with an identity and photographs to do this. You will then be expected to initiate correspondence or chat sessions with unsuspecting men. Of course, this could substantially increase your earning potential, but now you are committing a deliberate deception and fraud and this can have very serious consequences. Fraud is not a victimless crime, the men being deceived are real people and the reality is, because this is an “international” fraud, Government’s of many countries are starting to get tired of instances where their citizens are victims of criminal acts.

Some girls have been tempted to use “videochat” to show their bodies in order that they can increase their income because men are prepared to pay to watch girls degrade themselves. But consider this, if the videochat session is “open”, in other words it is not a private chat and other men can watch, then you are now involved in publishing porn, not only are you a porn star, but you could be guilty of distributing porn. Something else to consider, is that there is no such thing as a private chat, any of these sessions can be recorded with an inexpensive piece of software available on the internet, so your ‘exploits’ could be recorded and published on the internet, do you really want to take this risk?

If you are unlucky enough to get involved with a disreputable agency you may even find it hard to leave. Some girls find it difficult to have their profiles removed, whilst others report that their profiles are reactivated later, with another girl pretending to be them. Or, perhaps, their photos are used by another girl, with a different name. All of these things can and do happen.

Another thing often forgotten by the girls is any income “earned” through commissions is subject to tax. In addition, if girls use deception or fraud to obtain money from men, this is not a gift, but an income and therefore, it is subject to tax. Do you really want to have to explain such activities to the Tax Police/ I don’t think so!!!

Of course, not all marriage and dating websites are bad and not all marriage and dating agencies are bad, but if one offers to pay you for chatting to men, then you need to see this as a very large warning sign and consider very carefully my words. Do you want to lie and deceive? Do you want to embark on a criminal path of deception and fraud? Do you want to lose control of your identity and life?  Do you want to take the risk that your friends and family find out what you are doing? Do you want to find yourself with a very large tax bill to pay after the money has gone? It may look like “easy money”, but the risks are high and the harsh reality is, men are fighting back and eventually the authorities will crack down on this “industry”…and don’t expect the agencies to support you!

I genuinely believe that the vast majority of girls would not embark on this path if they knew the risks and possible consequences. Yes, I accept that there are some girls with a real penchant for scamming and easy money, but I believe they are the exception to the rule. I know from girls I have spoken to that many of them have only realised the reality of their “new job” after they have started and then they find it difficult to stop or leave. If this article prevents just a few girls from making the same mistakes, then it will have been worth writing.

I am sympathetic to the genuine operators and managers of dating and marriage websites or local agencies, but the reality is, if they want to operate within a reputable industry, then they also have an obligation to expose corrupt agencies and websites. They cannot stand idly by and expect others to do it for them. If any reputable agency or website is angered by my article, then ask yourself this…have you done anything to improve the reputation of your industry? If not, then don’t blame me for attempting to do your job for you!!! I do not accuse every website operator and marriage agency; in fact, I accept that there are reputable businesses out there, but the time is now for positive and proactive action by the reputable website operators and marriage agencies, because, quite frankly, we men have had enough of being scammed and we are going to fight back!

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